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I'm curious as to how my Fellow Brits are viewing the political debacle we are experiencing in Am.

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Rover, Sep 30, 2016.

  1. Rover

    Rover Member

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  3. Agent_W

    Agent_W Active Member

    It's through-the-looking-glass stuff.

    Early in the week, Trump was trounced in the first debate, which 80 million people watched. Most reliable polls had him losing by 30 or 40 points.

    He then spent the week arguing that scientific polls were unreliable, preferring instead to point to internet polls that his supporters had rigged with pile-on tactics.

    During the debate, Clinton brought up Trump's fat-shaming of a beauty pageant contestant. He then spent every day talking about that contestant, defending his decision to mock her for gaining weight. On Friday, he encouraged his millions of Twitter followers to Google her sex tape. There's no such thing.

    Then it was revealed he'd appeared in a Playboy soft porn film.

    After the debate he told everybody that he'd been too classy to bring up Bill Clinton's affairs during the debate. He falsely claimed he'd never had any himself.

    During the debate, he boasted that he was "smart" for not paying tax.

    He also lied about supporting the Iraq War.

    This week he's also claimed that Google is suppressing negative stories about Hillary Clinton.

    On Tuesday he said that the moderator in the debate had done a "great job". Later in the week he claimed that the same moderator had rigged the debate in favour of Clinton, and threatened not to take part in the next two.

    Then Newsweek revealed that Trump had probably violated the US embargo on trade with Cuba, and his campaign manager inadvertently confirmed that he had on national TV.

    Then Trump released an ad trying to appeal to women, which featured the line "The most important job a woman can have is being a mother".

    He also called for Obama not to "pardon" Hillary. She's not been charged with anything, never mind convicted.

    Then the Washington Post revealed that Trump's charity lacks the proper certifications to solicit donations, and is probably operating illegally.

    Trump also claimed this week that Angela Merkel is the leader he admires most despite repeatedly trashing her in the past.

    White nationalist David Duke also referred to Trump as "our candidate" (painting yourself orange counts as being white, seemingly).

    Then employees at Trump's golf courses said he wanted to fire woman employees for not being pretty enough, and Forbes magazine said his net worth (which he touts as some sort of yardstick of suitability to be President) had dropped $800m over the last year.

    So yeah, pretty fucking far-out week all round.

    I think there's something pretty fucked-up if the best the American political system can produce as presidential candidates is a choice between a daft-haired, orange-painted fantasist and a whole load of damaged goods. I feel like hiding under the bed for the duration of the next presidential term.
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  4. JohnnoLS8

    JohnnoLS8 Member

    I've never liked Hilary Clinton very much, but when the alternative is Donald Trump then she looks like a great choice. Of course, neither candidate is a patch on Barack Obama.
  5. Agent_W

    Agent_W Active Member

  6. bongobenny

    bongobenny Well-Known Member

    I have just lost what little faith I had in people as a collective generally. Watching Donald Trump who is a complete and utter moron get to the position where not only do millions of people take him seriously but he's down to the last two to become president of the most powerful military power in the world is Bond villain shit. It's so unbelievably ridiculous that I think that practically anything awful is now possible whereby I have always in the past thought, well at least they're not being led by a total lunatic. Trump has a very short temper. He's the most dangerous man on the planet. I can't actually believe that so many people don't see that. What do they expect to happen?
  7. Agent_W

    Agent_W Active Member

    I've not been following this too closely, but I think the people who intend to vote for him expect him to grab women by the pussy but apologise for it much later, build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, jail Hillary Clinton without due legal process, make America great again, kick ISIS's butt, reduce taxes massively, hate Muslims, somehow repatriate a load of jobs (Don, they've gone, mate - let it go; it's called capitalism), get NATO to give the US loads of money to ensure promises already made are kept in full, plus a load of other pie-in-the-sky shit that he hasn't made up yet.

    I've not been analysing his every utterance, but those seem to be the headlines in terms of what he's telling people they can expect.
  8. Agent_W

    Agent_W Active Member

    When was the last time America was "great", by the way? I'd love someone to ask him that. Just for a laugh.
  9. Rover

    Rover Member

    Now I think the situation is getting scary! Two years ago I remarked that Hitler began his horrific rise to power in ways similar to the path that Trump was on. I feel we're between a rock and a hard spot. The almighty $$$$$ plays too big a part in our political system ,one candidate is flaunting his wealth and the other one is trying to catch up.:eek:

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