Discussion in 'Non-Music Chat' started by Darren Major, Aug 30, 2014.
Bad. Everyone has the right to state their views, no matter how controversial, and everyone has the right to not be physically abused for stating them. But I also do not know the full context in which the incident happened, so it is worth keeping an open mind until the evidence comes in.
"Bad. Everyone has the right to state their views, no matter how controversial, and everyone has the right to not be physically abused for stating them."
Does this also apply to the bnp, edl, Britain first et al?
Darren Francis: BNP activist jailed for sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Nigel Hesmondhalgh: BNP member jailed for 9 months after degrading images and videos of children, found in 2011.
Ian Si'ree: BNP organiser convicted in 2012 for making and possessing images of child sex abuse.
Richard Price: co-founder of EDL. Convicted paedophile.
Any comment, "Darren"?
Generally Darren, the only people physically abusing these groups are...other members of these groups. It's happened on a number of occasions. But of course, nobody should be attacked for holding any political view.
But you needn't worry, all "lefties" were "vice-reading transgender retards" who didn't really offer any physical threat, as you said on that other thread.
Darren, Google all this.
Martyn Gilleard, of East Yorkshire, jailed for 16 years for explosives offences and child pornography.
Darren Tinklin, of Blackwood, South Wales, jailed for three years for possession of a firearm and a pipe bomb.
David Copeland, the "Soho Bomber".
Robert Cottage, of Colne, jailed for two and a half years for possession of explosives.
Terrance Gavan, of Batley, jailed for 11 years for possession of 12 firearms and 54 IEDs.
Neil Lewington, minimum of six years for explosives and terrorism offences.
All with links to right-wing parties. Copeland was a former BNP steward. Robert Cottage stood for the BNP in (I think) a council election. Tinklin, Cottage and Lewington all had racist/white supremacist literature in their homes. "Blood and Honour" crops up a couple of times as well.
Agent, wow. Clever you, you've located some 'white pedophiles'.
And some of them are white supremacists! Good going, especially considering much of the North, extending even as far down as Oxford seems gripped by an ethnicity of racist Pakistani/Muslim molesting gangs, kinda rendering your choice selection of prosecuted white fiddlers as some what irrelevant and missing the point.
Anyway, where do I defend white pedophiles/grooming gangs?
There is currently only one racial 'community' holding a monopoly on grooming and gang rape throughout central and Northern England right now, and their fetish for this behaviour goes back to the early 90s. Forgive me for doing something our labour held services failed to do: question the pertinent aspects as to what drives these racist, vile men, taking advantage of their idiosyncratic community identity and privileges to specifically target with impunity - white kuffar girls for exploitation and rape.
OK. Now explain the white nonces/pipe bombers.
Joe, interesting. Because from what I have seen over the years is the enthusiasm of the left to curtail the right, or anybody who basically doesn't fit into their parochial idea of democracy and ideology, the freedom to either protest (edl) or attend debates, TV etc (bnp question time).
Funny how the tolerance brigade quite often seem the most intolerant of all.
Also, please explain to me how the biggest nonce in UK history is white, the most prolific serial killers, male and female, in UK history are white, and how you're gonna blame that on the Muslims. Ta.
And yet the EDL protest and the BNP went on question time. Does it really hurt your ickle feelings that transgender leftie retards voice their displeasure at extremists airing their views, since they did anyway, as is their right? Would you be happy having Islamic hate preachers in your town centres getting coked up and smashing up the place and each other/on BBC QT? Yeah, I'm sure you'd sit by and say FAIR PLAY TO EM THEY'RE JUST VOICING AN OPINION.
If only there's been some sort of centuries-old religious group involving mainly white, "christian" men raping and assaulting children with impunity to negate your point about it being an especially pakistani muslim thing Darren. If only said organisation was the biggest, richest and most powerful christian organisation in the world. If only their abuses had been documented over and over again to the point that it became something that people just desperately joked about because it was so clear that the pieces of shit responsible would never be brought to justice. You fucking idiot.
Agent - explain in what way? I obviously do not condone molestation or rape.
Seems the left kind of does. Because what I can tell you is that there is no connection to the introverted nepotism of a prejudiced 'white community' behind these crimes, and your aforementioned white criminals were successfully prosecuted, because there was nothing in the way of political correctness or leftist multiculturalism to obscure their subsequent investigation. Funny how incredibly important tasks can be accomplished when there is no fear of race riot reprisals or a disturbance of 'community cohesion'.
Agent - for the time being, Britain is still a white majority country. It is entirely plausible that individual whites will be mostly behind the degeneracy in largely white areas, in a white majority country. Surprising, right? Er... No, actually.
However, what we do know is that Pakistani's (in particular) are over represented in grooming/gang rape cases in England, and in towns where Pakistani's are prevalent, we witness their over representation in drug trafficking, honor killings, anti western sedition and other forms of inner city crime. All this.... From a minority community. Wow. And much of this is protected with the power of their privileged community identity.
So by your logic I wonder how much gang rape, trafficking , honor killing crime we'll have when they start to become a majority. I can't wait. Multiculturalism has definitely made Britain better!
Yeah because some lads having fights on the estates wield far more power to be considered than the network of the catholic church.
Blame the leftie pakistani-lovers for the too eh?
UK has 7% Asian population, prison population 6% asian. Black people are over-represented, not that this reflects anything to anyone with a brain.
The last conviction for sedition was in 1972 and involved irish people. It's not an inner city crime, whatever the **** that means.
Why bother with facts when you can make shit up?!
If you'd just stuck to grooming, then maybe you might not have looked such a dick. Watch this: I am a leftie and I think the Pakistani community needs to do more to recognize and deal with the particular problem it has with grooming and abusing young girls.
'Yeah because some lads having fights on the estates wield far more power to be considered than the network of the catholic church.'
Clearly! Not even the Catholic Church could avoid the scrutiny and character assassination it faced due to the failure in dealing with its own menace.
The CC situation proves the point.
The Pakistani's evaded investigation completely for over twenty years throughout England, and will probably continue to do so in the name of cohesion and anti-racism. And they know it. Name me another prevalent British 'community' who could get away with such unique protection? Which is why none of them protest or care.
The lefts link to this collusion is unavoidable.
Regarding sedition... Again, you miss the point lol. The Irish were arrested and tried because they were white and part of the Christian community, albeit in the guise of the IRA. There was no potential fall out for either the mainstream left or right to worry about.
However the amount of Pakistani's who share traitorous affiliation with internal and foreign Islamist/jihadi sympathisers, along with their lobbying pro blasphemy element, through to those within their 'community' who have been actively involved in the permeation of seditious preaching... And shall we mention those lovely British Isis fighters...? If the Pakistani's were to be investigated as a community for all these things, your multicultural world would fall apart.
'needs to do more'. Wow. Such demands, such vitriol. You've dished out stronger insults to me and I've never raped anybody. Prioroties...eh.
Which is 20 years too long but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of unsolved Catholic rape and molestation cases that stretch back a century or more, globally?
What would you like me to say? You want me to insult the whole of the Pakistani community based on the actions of a few scumbags? I think the abuse perpetrated in the name of the Catholic church is horrific, obviously, but I'm not going to go around slagging off all catholics. Why's it okay to slag off all muslim pakistanis?
When you take into account double standards, Islamism, drugs, grooming, corruption, honor killings, racism.. I'm sorry but it is no longer sufficient enough to repeat... 'actions of a few scumbags?'
For Pakistani's to have spread this heinous form of crime into at least ten cities and towns, from Oxford to Rochdale, affecting countless vulnerable white girls - and lasting for over twenty years virtually undisturbed, there has to have been collusion and even protection.
We have already begun to witness the inevitable and understandable finger pointing at various key authority figures, however their association to the islam/Pakistani appeasing Labour party, and the undoubted relevance this aspect has on the bigger picture - seems in many left wing editorials once again suspiciously unmentionable.
In any case, the focus has to be on the perpetrators (Pakistani's), more than anything, or anybody else. Child protection services will you tell you this.
When the Saville legacy-destruction show began, we purchased our tickets to witness the complete character assassination of this man. He deserved it, because of his actions and taste for vulnerable underage girls. The focus was mostly on him, as a human, as a beast. And rightly so. The same goes for Harris and Hall, amongst others.
Notice the difference?
Nobody seems interested in questioning Pakistani's as to why so many of their minority community enjoy gang raping/molesting white girls.
Obscuring direct access, preferring instead to correspond with 'community leaders', which is unethical and counter productive.
There is little in similarity to the character assassination of Pakistani's, which seems non existent, compared to the character destruction of Jimmy Saville and other white predators. And if you fail to focus intently on the actions and reasoning of the predators, (in this case a specific racial demographic), we shall be lamenting and asking the same questions in ten years time.
*Slowly and quietly backs out of the room...*
Except for the people currently investigating, questioning and convicting them.
Once again you've slimed and wriggled away from the point that negates your "it's just pakehz" tunnel vision. The Catholic Church. There. Simple.
Stop using child abuse victims to suit your racist agenda.
Separate names with a comma.